Alligator Wisdom

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  "THE SPIRIT THAT NOW OPERATES IN THE SONS OF DISOBEDIENCE"

  by mrsjones5 in

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  Alligator Wisdom

  PJS-Chipper,

  Besides the cutting and pasting of articles on certain topics, what do YOU think? What do YOU know?

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Creation - struggling

  by wantstoleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am in the process of leaving, and those of you who have followed me will know i spoke to my family briefly the other day about my doubts, but not since.

  my dad has offered the occasional prayer for various things in the past week, as well as say he wants to study with my preschoolers.

  he has also added in the extra tidbits to do with jehovah being the only true god etc.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  The question you have is sort of like what I always had growing up.

  "Did Jehovah God create time?"

  If Jehovah God had always existed and time itself never has a beginning nor an end, does that mean Jehovah God IS time?

  Never got a straight logical answer for that one.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  This Fading Stuff is Tough!!

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  overall my fade is going very well, but yesterday it really hit me that certain "milestones" are going to be more difficult than others.. i have basically gotten down to one meeting a week, wth no field service.. this despite the dreaded admonition "one week without field service makes one weak!

  " (puke).

  as i was on the way to the meeting yesterday, i was informed that i was assigned to read the wt.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  What's your wife's feeling on your attempted fade?

  That can be a factor for some.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Why do you come to this site?

  by sinis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after all the years i have been here, i have slowly progressed to the point that the bible, god, and all the other religious stuff out there is just plain bullshit!!!

  yet when i first came here and was told by some of the members that that is what i would logically come to, i did not believe them, and yet they were right.

  i realize that a lot of people on this board have left, or are struggling with themselves or family to leave, yet many still believe.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  For an education.

  Thanks JWN!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Michael Jackson does the Moonwalk in a KH!! (and some real FS stories...)

  by Neo in

  1. social
  2. humour

  the bethelites who almost went out with michael jackson in service

  the following is a true story.

  when she came back with some money she asked michael if he had ever been told that he sure looked like michael jackson.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  I saw MJ two different times at the district convention. In fact our seats were about 50 yards away from him. My closest encounter with him was when I was strolling the corridor and he, along with two large black brothers, walked leisurely past me. That is when I realized that MJ wasn't really that tall. I was in Jr. high school then and he wasn't much taller than me.

  By the way, this was during the early 80's at Dodger Stadium. We all sat at the club level and the immediate section that he was sitting in were all black brothers and sisters.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Older posters check in...just post your name...we need to hear from you!

  by restrangled in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am not the oldest but have 3 years here!

  restrangled.. how about you?.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  It will be 7 years this fall.

  However, I have been lurking for about two years prior.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Look what witnessing looks like in Bresil!

  by purplesofa in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thought you'd like to see a few pictures of a book fair in bresil.

  brothers there rented a kiosque.

  i posted some time ago the american indian set-up in canada, very similar to this one.. has anyone seen these set-ups in other places, other than airports and colleges?.

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  What is the book being displayed on the shelf underneath the creation book?

  The Bible. God's Word or Man's?

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  10 Years Japan losses 5,400 Publishers and 638 Kingdom Halls! Why?

  by Witness 007 in

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  japan had a handful of witnesses after ww 2....this number skyrocketed to 222,912 by 1998!

  then something happened.

  publisher figures didn't stop, they dropped by thousands over the next decade!.

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  2008 Yearbook = 3,177 congregations. 2009 Yearbook = 3,177 congregations. No additions, no subtractions. Makes me wonder...

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  The hidden message in the June 15 2009 watchtower.

  by Hobo Ken in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this study will set the tone for future-proofing the watchtower society doctrine that their governing body is "the faithful slave" mentioned in parable by jesus in matthew24.. i thought as i read the study article starting on p.20 that the most important thing about this piece is what is missing, what is not said.. the first paragraph sets the tone of what they are trying to convey.. "while giving the composite sign of the last days jesus said, who really is the faithful and discreet slave?".

  i believe what they are doing with the opening paragraph is placing the authority and position of "the slave" within the context of the signs of the times thus attempting to validate it.

  without mentioning when they became such.. they then say that jesus would "reward" and appoint this slave over all his belongings.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Good points, and I agree that they have been mentioning it (1914) less and less.

  Actually, next week's study article in the March 15,2009 Watchtower "Be Vigilant" on pages 15 thru 17 makes significant reference to 1914.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  mass apostasy among anointed ones... ???

  by Albert Einstein in

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  2. beliefs

  the number of partaking at the memorial is increasiong.

  the usual explanaition is, that the new partaking anointed ones are replacements for the "unfaithfull" previous anionted.. what is confusing me, ... looking at the numbers of newly partaking each year .... , to see how many former anointed ones must have proved uinfaithful .... over 10% each year????

  what did they commit?

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  Alligator Wisdom

  It just so happens that I did ask an elder in my hall during the week of this year's Memorial about the increase of those partaking.

  His answer?

  "Of course Jehovah wants to increase the number of anointed as the end draws closer. The more of Christ's brothers there are, the more guidance and support we can get from them as we approach Amageddon's doorstep."

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)